Why do you put words in my mouth? Did I say anything about a second rapture for israel'? The Bible doesn't teach a second rapture. It teaches one rapture , and then it teaches that Christ will return to earth, landing on the mountain of olives.. In the same way and the same place that his disciples saw him go up.. He will return with Tens of thousands of his saints to fight the armies of the antichrist and to destroy him with the brightness of his coming. Please don't add to what I write.
Is the antichrist system in existence? In fact it has been for 2000 years, as Apostle John wrote " the antichrists are even now in the world.
I would add to that by saying that anti christ himself is here and growing up the old Roman empire
Very serious points, it's good to be reminded of the imminent rapture rather than get discouraged. You even had me smile when I imagined a gang of angels playing on harps and sipping celestial herbal teas LOL! Seriously, I had joined a Bible study group a few years ago, and the teacher did not believe in hell or in the rapture. I remember his speech about the bride of Christ "having to endure to the end, being tested by fire". The students were gullibly taking in this end sentence. I just "sheeplishly" cleared my throat to say: Hum, the bride of Christ is covered by the blood and is not meant to suffer through tribulation, or fire. Fire is for the ones who refused the Blood... He was pretty insulted, as he has been a Christian for most of his long life...
So many people misinterpret Scripture and as Victoria shared, there are 42,000 Christian denominations! Victoria also posted some scripture about the Saints (Holy Ones) being protected from wrath because we are already persecuted ("My yoke is easy and my burden is light."The deep state is DEEPLY embedded into the satanic system because the sons of serpents infiltrated all institutions and deceived us all a long time ago.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
"For the secret of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way"
This ought to mean that God will restrain the evil one until the saints are are removed before the Great Tribulation which will occur 7 years later. Correct me if I am wrong.
Yes. In so many words. The Scriptures pose irrefutable proof of a 'removal event'. There are examples in the OT of such a thing,.. Noah,.. Enoch, Elijah, and straight out mentions of it such as I Thessalonians 4, also Philippians 3:14 .. the 'calling up on high'.. the TEN Church Espistle commands to 'watch for his return', (not watch for a beast or a Wrath)..
What bothers me the most about Christians who don't believe there will be a rapture, is that - consequently, they are not urgently preparing their loved ones and friends, who will be here for these assaults.
Look up the TR3-BV weapon. Israel reportely has 3 of them, with enough nuclear warheads on board to wipe out the earth. Leslie, we won't be here.
Your view of end times falls into the dispensational category. I encourage you to look up the origins of dispensationalism particularly it’s just roots as part of the counter affirmation. Revelation is meant to be read historically. The antichrist system is well in existence. There is no second rapture for Israel. Abraham promises to Israel Warfield. The only kingdom left is not Israel, but God‘s spiritual kingdom, spiritual Jerusalem. there’s one second coming and we will meet him in the air. and the destruction of the nonbelievers will commence.
I have not seen the word 'dispensational category' in the Bible. And the Lord Jesus Christ who has guided my search for 50 years is the one that also teaches me truth. I don't study the doctrines of man. I don't care to. I have never written anything except that it has been established by more than 2 or 3 witnesses. If there are things in the Bible that are translated as dispensations, so be it. For my part, I will continue to preach what the holy scriptures teach by the guidance of the holy spirit that works within me.
I’m completely okay with persevering through the tribulation and as a redeemed member of Christ’s family to live through the times of the Antichrist until I see the risen Jesus returning to crush the evil one and his armies and am raptured to join him for the triumphant victory.
Revelation says we will overcome the antichrist on earth if we hold to our testimony, something I think that I intend to do in earthly body as long as I have breath to share it.
This is an example of inserting what you want, rather than believing what is written. It may sound sincere, noble, spiritual even, but if it is not what God has forordained - your noble declaration is error.
The Scriptures are clear about the rise of antichrist. He cannot rise while the Church remains present - or Luke 10:19 is false, and Jesus is a liar.
Did you think Christ will leave his Church here for the slaughter at Armageddon? Then Paul also lied when he said TWICE that we are ‘saved from the wrath to come’. (Romans 5:9 and I Thessalonians 5:9)
The Church is nowhere told to watch for the Apocalypse or for the man of sin to rise. On the contrary we are told 10 times to 'wait for the son of God from heaven'. His return is our hope. Not surviving armageddon. Your testimony is NOW or it's too late.
The Church is nowhere found in the Apocalyptic Scriptures in Revelation. The Scriptures are specifically addressed to Israel and the gentiles who'll be here when the Church is gone. All of the symbolism and figures are decidedly Hebrew. Nowhere do the Church epistles discuss preparation for Armageddon. Revelation is not written to Christ's Church.
Any saints who will be present when the man of perditon rises, came to Christ after the Rapture, which is why they must 'endure to the end' to be saved. You were saved (if you are) by Christ's blood, not your own. By His sacrifice. Not your own.
Christ is coming WITH his army of saints. If you are born again, that should be you. Which means you are NOT here until he comes down to the Mount of Olives with his armies.
Why do you put words in my mouth? Did I say anything about a second rapture for israel'? The Bible doesn't teach a second rapture. It teaches one rapture , and then it teaches that Christ will return to earth, landing on the mountain of olives.. In the same way and the same place that his disciples saw him go up.. He will return with Tens of thousands of his saints to fight the armies of the antichrist and to destroy him with the brightness of his coming. Please don't add to what I write.
Is the antichrist system in existence? In fact it has been for 2000 years, as Apostle John wrote " the antichrists are even now in the world.
I would add to that by saying that anti christ himself is here and growing up the old Roman empire
Very serious points, it's good to be reminded of the imminent rapture rather than get discouraged. You even had me smile when I imagined a gang of angels playing on harps and sipping celestial herbal teas LOL! Seriously, I had joined a Bible study group a few years ago, and the teacher did not believe in hell or in the rapture. I remember his speech about the bride of Christ "having to endure to the end, being tested by fire". The students were gullibly taking in this end sentence. I just "sheeplishly" cleared my throat to say: Hum, the bride of Christ is covered by the blood and is not meant to suffer through tribulation, or fire. Fire is for the ones who refused the Blood... He was pretty insulted, as he has been a Christian for most of his long life...
So many people misinterpret Scripture and as Victoria shared, there are 42,000 Christian denominations! Victoria also posted some scripture about the Saints (Holy Ones) being protected from wrath because we are already persecuted ("My yoke is easy and my burden is light."The deep state is DEEPLY embedded into the satanic system because the sons of serpents infiltrated all institutions and deceived us all a long time ago.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
"For the secret of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way"
This ought to mean that God will restrain the evil one until the saints are are removed before the Great Tribulation which will occur 7 years later. Correct me if I am wrong.
Yes. In so many words. The Scriptures pose irrefutable proof of a 'removal event'. There are examples in the OT of such a thing,.. Noah,.. Enoch, Elijah, and straight out mentions of it such as I Thessalonians 4, also Philippians 3:14 .. the 'calling up on high'.. the TEN Church Espistle commands to 'watch for his return', (not watch for a beast or a Wrath)..
What bothers me the most about Christians who don't believe there will be a rapture, is that - consequently, they are not urgently preparing their loved ones and friends, who will be here for these assaults.
Look up the TR3-BV weapon. Israel reportely has 3 of them, with enough nuclear warheads on board to wipe out the earth. Leslie, we won't be here.
It often makes me wonder how such teachers reconcile Romans 5:9 and I Thessalonians 59.
Thank you, Victoria! Love you❤️
Ditto
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Jesuit roots
Your view of end times falls into the dispensational category. I encourage you to look up the origins of dispensationalism particularly it’s just roots as part of the counter affirmation. Revelation is meant to be read historically. The antichrist system is well in existence. There is no second rapture for Israel. Abraham promises to Israel Warfield. The only kingdom left is not Israel, but God‘s spiritual kingdom, spiritual Jerusalem. there’s one second coming and we will meet him in the air. and the destruction of the nonbelievers will commence.
I have not seen the word 'dispensational category' in the Bible. And the Lord Jesus Christ who has guided my search for 50 years is the one that also teaches me truth. I don't study the doctrines of man. I don't care to. I have never written anything except that it has been established by more than 2 or 3 witnesses. If there are things in the Bible that are translated as dispensations, so be it. For my part, I will continue to preach what the holy scriptures teach by the guidance of the holy spirit that works within me.
I’m completely okay with persevering through the tribulation and as a redeemed member of Christ’s family to live through the times of the Antichrist until I see the risen Jesus returning to crush the evil one and his armies and am raptured to join him for the triumphant victory.
Revelation says we will overcome the antichrist on earth if we hold to our testimony, something I think that I intend to do in earthly body as long as I have breath to share it.
This is an example of inserting what you want, rather than believing what is written. It may sound sincere, noble, spiritual even, but if it is not what God has forordained - your noble declaration is error.
The Scriptures are clear about the rise of antichrist. He cannot rise while the Church remains present - or Luke 10:19 is false, and Jesus is a liar.
Did you think Christ will leave his Church here for the slaughter at Armageddon? Then Paul also lied when he said TWICE that we are ‘saved from the wrath to come’. (Romans 5:9 and I Thessalonians 5:9)
The Church is nowhere told to watch for the Apocalypse or for the man of sin to rise. On the contrary we are told 10 times to 'wait for the son of God from heaven'. His return is our hope. Not surviving armageddon. Your testimony is NOW or it's too late.
The Church is nowhere found in the Apocalyptic Scriptures in Revelation. The Scriptures are specifically addressed to Israel and the gentiles who'll be here when the Church is gone. All of the symbolism and figures are decidedly Hebrew. Nowhere do the Church epistles discuss preparation for Armageddon. Revelation is not written to Christ's Church.
Any saints who will be present when the man of perditon rises, came to Christ after the Rapture, which is why they must 'endure to the end' to be saved. You were saved (if you are) by Christ's blood, not your own. By His sacrifice. Not your own.
Christ is coming WITH his army of saints. If you are born again, that should be you. Which means you are NOT here until he comes down to the Mount of Olives with his armies.
He will lead his army; not follow them.