Nice post and I like the corss reference between Joel and Acts, though I'm (not) sure which chapter of Joel 17-18 is in as I'm finding it in Joel 2 28-29 and even 30-32 seems relevant.
I will Pour Out My Spirit
(John 14:15-26; John 16:5-16; Acts 2:1-13; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 19:1-7)
28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Another interesting cross reference
Numbers 11:29
But Moses replied, “Are you jealous on my account? I wish that all the LORD’s people were prophets and that the LORD would place His Spirit on them!”
Again I'm not trying to debate or correct here, as I wasn't aware if there were two different verses you were quoting or where they split, and when I typed in the verses it brought up those verses, and when I realized you were putting both Joel and Acts cross reference together. I thought you may have been doing it from memory as you're far more astute in the scriptures than I am.
Joel laid it out pretty good in that portion of scripture. The numbers one reminds me of you, at least after the ? mark, as you want us all to be desciples as the propecies have all been fulfilled regarding Christ.
Hello Kelly, I was trying to figure out where you got the quote as being from Joel 17.. It was from Acts 2:17 & 18 ... I saw finally that the verse number '17' was still visible in the Acts quote from Bible Hub, and you may have understood it to be connected to 'Joel' (the word before). Does this explain it? (I deleted the recalcitrant number~! 17 is a Scriptural trouble maker~! Haha. (Genesis 7:11)
I can see it more clearly now, as it was from this in the email version:
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,
I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy.” Acts 2:16 -18
So what I initially saw was this is what Joel said, and then saw the 17 & 18 verses thinking you were referring to Joel, so that is what I searched for from the email before I even logged in to SS. I never did look at Acts assuming it was the cross reference to it. Now looking at Acts I see it states as verse 16, which isn't showing in the email or the post, which obviously confused me but it was a good exercise having found the scripture it referred to.
"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;"
Strangely the crossreferences in my post from BibleHub doesn't refer to the Acts 16-18? I hadn't even noticed that until now, and references Acts 2: 1-13 among others.
I won't go into the descripancies of which the KJV had the least, but will instead refer you to read all of chatper two of Acts in the Geneva 1560 for comparison purposes from this PDF from Internet Archives that you can download direct if so wished.
Strangely the crossreferences in my post from BibleHub doesn't refer to the Acts 16-18? I hadn't even noticed that until now, and references Acts 2: 1-13 among others.
Kelly, read my note (above) again, I am referring to Acts 2: verses 16 - 18.
Yes Victoria I realized that and why I posted the whole section from the email that shows all of that at the bottom, it has the 17 and 18 in place as you can see in my comment, but no 16 in front of the verse
"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;"
Why I thought initially you were referring to Joel.
I looked up the passages in Acts tonight as stated as well as all of chapter 2.
What I was referring to when looking at the Joel crossreference on BibleHub is that it didn't reference to Acts 2: 16-18, which it should have being as less verse 16 it's identical.
It loses the point to debate the type of nails, so I removed the word wood. The point of his horrific crucifixion remains the death of the son of man - and the only man God ever raised from the dead - followed by his ascension and glorification, to the end that the Spirit might be poured out at long last.
I never saw the passion of the Christ. Reading about it was enough!!...
Agreed, and I didn't want to debate it. I didn't really know and was curious and apparently there was some debate at some time about it. Again he was nailed to the cross one way or the other, and even the Jama article accepted that he existed and suffered that fate, but kept it at the medical diagnosis and left out any issues regarding faith. Much can be gleaned from it in a positive light.
It was a brutal movie to be sure. It was free on Prime, but I couldn't bring myself to watch again yet, though it's still in my saved movies. Up to the flogging is ok, but that's where many turned their eyes away. Mel did a good job though it ruined his career.
God Bless and Happy Pentecost as you have so aptly reminded us.
Nice post and I like the corss reference between Joel and Acts, though I'm (not) sure which chapter of Joel 17-18 is in as I'm finding it in Joel 2 28-29 and even 30-32 seems relevant.
I will Pour Out My Spirit
(John 14:15-26; John 16:5-16; Acts 2:1-13; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 19:1-7)
28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
32And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Another interesting cross reference
Numbers 11:29
But Moses replied, “Are you jealous on my account? I wish that all the LORD’s people were prophets and that the LORD would place His Spirit on them!”
https://biblehub.com/kjv/joel/2.htm
Again I'm not trying to debate or correct here, as I wasn't aware if there were two different verses you were quoting or where they split, and when I typed in the verses it brought up those verses, and when I realized you were putting both Joel and Acts cross reference together. I thought you may have been doing it from memory as you're far more astute in the scriptures than I am.
Joel laid it out pretty good in that portion of scripture. The numbers one reminds me of you, at least after the ? mark, as you want us all to be desciples as the propecies have all been fulfilled regarding Christ.
Hello Kelly, I was trying to figure out where you got the quote as being from Joel 17.. It was from Acts 2:17 & 18 ... I saw finally that the verse number '17' was still visible in the Acts quote from Bible Hub, and you may have understood it to be connected to 'Joel' (the word before). Does this explain it? (I deleted the recalcitrant number~! 17 is a Scriptural trouble maker~! Haha. (Genesis 7:11)
Hello Victoria,
I can see it more clearly now, as it was from this in the email version:
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,
I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit;
and they shall prophesy.” Acts 2:16 -18
So what I initially saw was this is what Joel said, and then saw the 17 & 18 verses thinking you were referring to Joel, so that is what I searched for from the email before I even logged in to SS. I never did look at Acts assuming it was the cross reference to it. Now looking at Acts I see it states as verse 16, which isn't showing in the email or the post, which obviously confused me but it was a good exercise having found the scripture it referred to.
"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;"
Strangely the crossreferences in my post from BibleHub doesn't refer to the Acts 16-18? I hadn't even noticed that until now, and references Acts 2: 1-13 among others.
I won't go into the descripancies of which the KJV had the least, but will instead refer you to read all of chatper two of Acts in the Geneva 1560 for comparison purposes from this PDF from Internet Archives that you can download direct if so wished.
https://dn790005.ca.archive.org/0/items/TheGenevaBible1560/geneva_bible1560.pdf
May the Lords light continue to shine through you unto us!
Strangely the crossreferences in my post from BibleHub doesn't refer to the Acts 16-18? I hadn't even noticed that until now, and references Acts 2: 1-13 among others.
Kelly, read my note (above) again, I am referring to Acts 2: verses 16 - 18.
Yes Victoria I realized that and why I posted the whole section from the email that shows all of that at the bottom, it has the 17 and 18 in place as you can see in my comment, but no 16 in front of the verse
"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;"
Why I thought initially you were referring to Joel.
I looked up the passages in Acts tonight as stated as well as all of chapter 2.
What I was referring to when looking at the Joel crossreference on BibleHub is that it didn't reference to Acts 2: 16-18, which it should have being as less verse 16 it's identical.
It loses the point to debate the type of nails, so I removed the word wood. The point of his horrific crucifixion remains the death of the son of man - and the only man God ever raised from the dead - followed by his ascension and glorification, to the end that the Spirit might be poured out at long last.
I never saw the passion of the Christ. Reading about it was enough!!...
Agreed, and I didn't want to debate it. I didn't really know and was curious and apparently there was some debate at some time about it. Again he was nailed to the cross one way or the other, and even the Jama article accepted that he existed and suffered that fate, but kept it at the medical diagnosis and left out any issues regarding faith. Much can be gleaned from it in a positive light.
It was a brutal movie to be sure. It was free on Prime, but I couldn't bring myself to watch again yet, though it's still in my saved movies. Up to the flogging is ok, but that's where many turned their eyes away. Mel did a good job though it ruined his career.
God Bless and Happy Pentecost as you have so aptly reminded us.
Thank you !! God bless you too!