The land across the ocean that is stealing land from the Palestinians through war and bloodshed is not the Israel of God. In 1948 the Balfour Declaration gave the name Israel to a piece of land funded by the Rothchilds. It is not the Israel of the Bible.
The Israel of the Bible lived in the land of Palestine. When the Israeli nation (Jews) demanded Barabbas as their king instead of Jesus and crucified Jesus on the cross the temple vail was rent in two signifying that they were no longer God’s chosen people and that His presence had left the temple. We are all spiritual Jews today if we accept Christ as our Savior! Also, don’t think that Jesus would ever be ok with the murder of millions of innocent people. A lot of those Jewish people don’t even believe that Jesus is the Messiah!
Don’t kid yourself, the acts going on Gaza are of the devil along with his agents in human flesh!
Agree. The genuine "Israelis" are a people, not a place. They would not fly flags with the (satantic) star of Remphan. True Jews are the descendants of Jacob -- they fulfill the biblical notion of a "nation" which is not (geographic areas of land defined by fixed boundaries) "countries," - self-declared and self-named - as they've come to be interpreted today, especially when they're formed as a result of an imposed, forced immigration into an occupied area to facilitate colonization and ethnic cleansing of pre-existing indigenous people groups. (Biblically-defined) nations are instead a people/people group, a family, tribe, kinship group, ethnic group from common ancestry. "The nations" of course eventually came to mean the Gentiles -- the "Goyim" -- non-Jews with no heritage or relationship to the One true living eternal God and Creator, the one who called out a specific people group from a specific family for Himself but who repeatedly (understandably -- theirs was an impossible task) failed their God and missed the standards to which they covenanted to keep.
The promised Deliverer, predicted in the ancient writings of the Jews and hailed as Messiah by those who actually understood who He was (and is) at His coming, signs and wonders and fulfilled prophecies abounding, came to demonstrate and explain the impossibility of being "children of Abraham" as a means to righteousness, or keepers of laws that they were incapable of truly keeping (as demonstrated by the sermon on the mount -- the actual standards of the law were so much greater than the interpreted and accepted traditional fulfillment had been deemed to be that He unequivocally showed them the need for a Savior to act on their behalf and to be the satisfying sacrifice that would fulfill the just demands of the holy law of God.
Jesus made a legitimate offer of the kingdom to those who were the chosen of God as their long foretold Messiah, but they instead partnered to have Him crucified, shouting "His blood be upon our heads" -- forsaking the promises and rejecting their legitimate Savior, King and Mediator.
We as Gentiles were then given the opportunity to become spiritual Israelites -- by faith in the finished work of Jesus for the taking away of the sins of the world (for those who apprehend Him and the application of His life for our own). We were never subject to the law or the covenants of old -- not part of the physical heritage that applies to the Jews and certainly not living in the traditions of the Jews and their customs and culture. However, a time will come, as stated by others here, when God Himself WILL REGATHER HIS PEOPLE Whom He knows (they were identifiable as 12 tribes even at the time of the writing of the new testament -- scattered or not) and He will once again champion the opportunity for them to regard, recognize and reclaim Jesus as Messiah, LORD and Savior-- during the time of Jacob's trouble, also called "the Great Tribulation" -- the true believing faithful comprised of Jews and Gentiles embracing the saving grace of Jesus will be taken out and the ensuing time of testing on the entire world will commence.
During this time of extraordinary evil (a time we are fast approaching rivaling the "every man's only thoughts were evil continually") as in the days of Noah before the flood, there will be a series of events intended to both judge a Christ-rejecting world, but more specifically, to awaken the slumbering Jews and to rouse them to embrace the provision for them in Jesus' birth, life, death, resurrection, ascension and intercession/advocacy and they will find the solace of the Holy Spirit - at least 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes and be found in Him, but persecuted, martyred and awaiting His vengeance on the earth to be completed.
The evil one has from the beginning been actively attempting to establish, grown and eventually (if it were possible) replace the kingdom of God with his satanic counterfeit. He has his own "government" structures, His own "synthetic" biology, His "genetically modified world that is being enslaved by imposed ignorance, selfishness, sinful indulgence, ad technological wizardry, fed by industrial propaganda and deceit at every conceivable level. He will even offer up the "man of sin" -- the lawless one as the "anti" Christ -- a false Messiah for the deceived and rejectors of truth and life and light to embrace. He has attempted to construct a physical facsimile of "Israel" by using political, military, faux religious beliefs and practices and fraudulent scriptures and revisionist history to convince those who are gullible to support the wholesale murder and displacement of those who for centuries occupied the lands once promised to an OBEDIENT Israeli people -- but who have repeatedly, multiple times rejected the offer in grace and love in favor of their stubborn,
hardened hearts and debauched spirits and material lusts and thirst for power and imposed government of this world. We who are His own, bought with a price (the precious blood of Jesus shed for us), freed to love and serve Him and to stand (Ephesians 6) against the tide of popular opinion and false narratives and feigned concerns for the victims of this genocidal campaign of death and destruction must remain faithful to our LORD & Savior, not to the idea of a political group calling themselves Israelites (who may or may not be biblical Jews of the right Heritage) taking by force and deception and the leveraging of evil as a tool for their hollow and empty victories and the continued extermination and subjugation of the people who were settled and
living in that land must not waiver in our prayers and warning to those who would trespass the work of God in favor of a satanic fraud being perpetrated as a prelude to the emergence of the long prophesied one world government and the headquartering of that evil empire in Jerusalem, forcing fulfillment of scriptures of a spiritual nature in a physical realm, using black magic to try and bring about an age promised as the sovereign work of God by those who believe they can somehow force this into existence through their efforts (just as impossible as attaining righteous standing before God in and of our own efforts and deed absent Jesus as our Propitiation and offering). What God has purposed, He will make come to pass in His time and way and nothing will be able to stop Him or impede the progression of events He sets into motion to accomplish His purposes for His glory.
Let’s never forget the America/ United States is a Gentile nation. And like all other Gentile nations is without God and dead in sin and inequity. Despite many Christians living in the US, America is not a
Christian nation. Israel is the only nation with a God. So to excoriate the US for being what they are in every dimension, a waning empire, is sort of moot. Your Scripture ref are aimed at Israel as God’s disobedient firstborn son and the harlot wife of Jehoveh. She will be redeemed and made whole and cleansed but only after repentance is achieved. That’s part of what the Time of Jacobs Trouble accomplishes. America as a Gentile nation will suffer what all Gentie nations suffer, complete brokenness of their power and their population will be decimated by 3/4.
So any US rulership from any perspective cannot alter God’s plans for purged earth and a restored nation of Israel on a restorqed land. Bottom line any condemnation toward any Gentile nation is without consequence. God sees the entire world governmental structure through the eyes of Israel. Israel is His creation and only He controls their destiny. And that despite ALL we have seen and do see every modern news cycle.
Except Israel is not occupying that land. Not until God gathers them. Read Matthew 24. Lisa was absolutely right in saying Balfour and Rothschild are not God's agents. The people occupying that land are not God's people. It is premature to call Israel, a 'nation with God'. Have you not seen Tel Aviv William? It is the capitol of sodomy in the world.
Ok. Let’s repeat. First of all Matt Ch 23 v38 begins the Olivet Discourse. A complete discussion of the consequences of Israel rejecting the King. Judgment first of Israel, then the Church and finally the Gentiles, follows thru Ch 24-25. Isreal rejected the King and His proffered Kingdom of the Heavens. (Which is the rule over the earth from the heavens). Israel was set aside for 2,000 years. Ch 23 v34-36 set the curse upon Israel, v35. These 2k years God the HS has two purposes: 1. Call out from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 2. Identify and procure a Bride for His firstborn & only begotten Son, Christ. Today Israel is indeed in the Land prematurely. God,despite that ungodly effort to occupy the Land by force in 1948 has a people, regardless how defiled (Sodomy, of course!) and broken and compromised, to make a covenant with the Beast. The AntiChrist needs a Jewish presence there to ratify a covenant. The next event on the Divine Calendar is the Judgment Seat of Christ to bring all the Church into Judgment. Works are judged. Only the qualified will become the Bride and reign with Christ.
Apart from that what is going on today in that scruffy little “nation” on the Mediterranean is of no consequence. God’s plans and purpose will not be aborted. He will have His Chosen, His Firstborn Son back and His Harlot wife cleansed and ruling with Him. BUT all that is preceded by the absolute necessity of bringing Israel, no matter how you describe them, to the place of repentance. That’s what the Time Of Jacob’s Trouble accomplishes. A time of such horror and bloodletting that the world has never seen. Nor ever will. Today’s slaughters are magnified 100x during that time yet ahead. We are at the end of the 6th day. God will regather His Chosen,
chosen to rule walk in the rights of primogeniture: to rule and bless the Gentile nations as kings and priests.
So VJ let’s not get all flustered by what we see on this earth today. It all passes. Israel’s blasphemies and corruption are not surprising in the least. He is dead man walking. He is the slayer.
Meantime we do have a war going on here in the west. Ishmael is on the march. Globally. Civilizational Jihad is here now. The fight is coming to us. The west is caving as we speak. It’s no longer over there, across the oceans. Prepare.
In John 8 Jesus was castigating the satanic followers in Israel. They have been the perpetrators of wars, genocides, intrigues, and every satanic work, throughout the ages. A small group, as in Jesus' day, nevertheless empowered by satan. As John Stormer put it, 'Only a few people are true Communists, the rest are acquiesors.'
PS These luciferian 'zionists' have bent over backwards to paint the Arabs as the problem. Moses knew these people too, for which reason the commandment says' Thou shalt not bear false witness',.. and Mossad's motto, as if to mock Moses says 'By deceit thou shalt make war'.
Woah VJ, You are conflating ALOT of historical and fanciful threads here to make an erroneous conclusion. The Pharisees, Israel’s leaders and those who sat in Moses seat should have known who He was. His claim to be God and performing the signs He was, pushed them into blasphemy. Christ removed His offer of the Kingdom Of the Heavens and ultimately gave it to the Church. Signs always needed and wanted by Isreal were performed to show Israel’s leaders the Nations true condition. They saw and hated him. So all that resistance to the offer of the Kingdom of the Heavens was made by redeemed men refusing to convert to the True Shepard and Lamb of God. They personified the stiffnecked rebellion He accused them of. They were not going to enter the Kindom themselves and were preventing all others from doing so. There are lots of liars on the earth but God is only interested in the restoration of man during a 7,000 year period here on earth. What Israel or those saying they are Jews but are not, and any other Jews anywhere in the planet are ALL guilty. They killed the prophets sent to them from the begining of the nations entry into the Promised Land and since. ALL are guilty. ALL will be punished. There is ANOTHER Holocaust coming for every Jew alive today. The remaining Jews will in that time of extreme suffering will again “call upon the God of their fathers”. God will answer and send the greater than Moses to deliver. It’s all in the types from the OT. When Christ appears to His restored people they will see Him Whom they had pierced and rejoice. Meantime all hell breaking loose is just ahead.
Ok being flustered is your choice. But it remains that Ishmael and Issac are two half-brothers who are today fighting for the right to rule the world. The rights of inheritance. Clearly the son of the slave woman does NOT inherit. Ishmael dies during the Tribulation. As typed in the time between Abraham’s barren wife and his fruitful wife Keturah. The Scriptures have a structure. Follow the God-provided structure and the scriptures interpret themselves. Modern day prophets are fraud.
It also ramains that the heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked.
The land across the ocean that is stealing land from the Palestinians through war and bloodshed is not the Israel of God. In 1948 the Balfour Declaration gave the name Israel to a piece of land funded by the Rothchilds. It is not the Israel of the Bible.
The Israel of the Bible lived in the land of Palestine. When the Israeli nation (Jews) demanded Barabbas as their king instead of Jesus and crucified Jesus on the cross the temple vail was rent in two signifying that they were no longer God’s chosen people and that His presence had left the temple. We are all spiritual Jews today if we accept Christ as our Savior! Also, don’t think that Jesus would ever be ok with the murder of millions of innocent people. A lot of those Jewish people don’t even believe that Jesus is the Messiah!
Don’t kid yourself, the acts going on Gaza are of the devil along with his agents in human flesh!
Agree. The genuine "Israelis" are a people, not a place. They would not fly flags with the (satantic) star of Remphan. True Jews are the descendants of Jacob -- they fulfill the biblical notion of a "nation" which is not (geographic areas of land defined by fixed boundaries) "countries," - self-declared and self-named - as they've come to be interpreted today, especially when they're formed as a result of an imposed, forced immigration into an occupied area to facilitate colonization and ethnic cleansing of pre-existing indigenous people groups. (Biblically-defined) nations are instead a people/people group, a family, tribe, kinship group, ethnic group from common ancestry. "The nations" of course eventually came to mean the Gentiles -- the "Goyim" -- non-Jews with no heritage or relationship to the One true living eternal God and Creator, the one who called out a specific people group from a specific family for Himself but who repeatedly (understandably -- theirs was an impossible task) failed their God and missed the standards to which they covenanted to keep.
The promised Deliverer, predicted in the ancient writings of the Jews and hailed as Messiah by those who actually understood who He was (and is) at His coming, signs and wonders and fulfilled prophecies abounding, came to demonstrate and explain the impossibility of being "children of Abraham" as a means to righteousness, or keepers of laws that they were incapable of truly keeping (as demonstrated by the sermon on the mount -- the actual standards of the law were so much greater than the interpreted and accepted traditional fulfillment had been deemed to be that He unequivocally showed them the need for a Savior to act on their behalf and to be the satisfying sacrifice that would fulfill the just demands of the holy law of God.
Jesus made a legitimate offer of the kingdom to those who were the chosen of God as their long foretold Messiah, but they instead partnered to have Him crucified, shouting "His blood be upon our heads" -- forsaking the promises and rejecting their legitimate Savior, King and Mediator.
We as Gentiles were then given the opportunity to become spiritual Israelites -- by faith in the finished work of Jesus for the taking away of the sins of the world (for those who apprehend Him and the application of His life for our own). We were never subject to the law or the covenants of old -- not part of the physical heritage that applies to the Jews and certainly not living in the traditions of the Jews and their customs and culture. However, a time will come, as stated by others here, when God Himself WILL REGATHER HIS PEOPLE Whom He knows (they were identifiable as 12 tribes even at the time of the writing of the new testament -- scattered or not) and He will once again champion the opportunity for them to regard, recognize and reclaim Jesus as Messiah, LORD and Savior-- during the time of Jacob's trouble, also called "the Great Tribulation" -- the true believing faithful comprised of Jews and Gentiles embracing the saving grace of Jesus will be taken out and the ensuing time of testing on the entire world will commence.
During this time of extraordinary evil (a time we are fast approaching rivaling the "every man's only thoughts were evil continually") as in the days of Noah before the flood, there will be a series of events intended to both judge a Christ-rejecting world, but more specifically, to awaken the slumbering Jews and to rouse them to embrace the provision for them in Jesus' birth, life, death, resurrection, ascension and intercession/advocacy and they will find the solace of the Holy Spirit - at least 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes and be found in Him, but persecuted, martyred and awaiting His vengeance on the earth to be completed.
The evil one has from the beginning been actively attempting to establish, grown and eventually (if it were possible) replace the kingdom of God with his satanic counterfeit. He has his own "government" structures, His own "synthetic" biology, His "genetically modified world that is being enslaved by imposed ignorance, selfishness, sinful indulgence, ad technological wizardry, fed by industrial propaganda and deceit at every conceivable level. He will even offer up the "man of sin" -- the lawless one as the "anti" Christ -- a false Messiah for the deceived and rejectors of truth and life and light to embrace. He has attempted to construct a physical facsimile of "Israel" by using political, military, faux religious beliefs and practices and fraudulent scriptures and revisionist history to convince those who are gullible to support the wholesale murder and displacement of those who for centuries occupied the lands once promised to an OBEDIENT Israeli people -- but who have repeatedly, multiple times rejected the offer in grace and love in favor of their stubborn,
hardened hearts and debauched spirits and material lusts and thirst for power and imposed government of this world. We who are His own, bought with a price (the precious blood of Jesus shed for us), freed to love and serve Him and to stand (Ephesians 6) against the tide of popular opinion and false narratives and feigned concerns for the victims of this genocidal campaign of death and destruction must remain faithful to our LORD & Savior, not to the idea of a political group calling themselves Israelites (who may or may not be biblical Jews of the right Heritage) taking by force and deception and the leveraging of evil as a tool for their hollow and empty victories and the continued extermination and subjugation of the people who were settled and
living in that land must not waiver in our prayers and warning to those who would trespass the work of God in favor of a satanic fraud being perpetrated as a prelude to the emergence of the long prophesied one world government and the headquartering of that evil empire in Jerusalem, forcing fulfillment of scriptures of a spiritual nature in a physical realm, using black magic to try and bring about an age promised as the sovereign work of God by those who believe they can somehow force this into existence through their efforts (just as impossible as attaining righteous standing before God in and of our own efforts and deed absent Jesus as our Propitiation and offering). What God has purposed, He will make come to pass in His time and way and nothing will be able to stop Him or impede the progression of events He sets into motion to accomplish His purposes for His glory.
Let’s never forget the America/ United States is a Gentile nation. And like all other Gentile nations is without God and dead in sin and inequity. Despite many Christians living in the US, America is not a
Christian nation. Israel is the only nation with a God. So to excoriate the US for being what they are in every dimension, a waning empire, is sort of moot. Your Scripture ref are aimed at Israel as God’s disobedient firstborn son and the harlot wife of Jehoveh. She will be redeemed and made whole and cleansed but only after repentance is achieved. That’s part of what the Time of Jacobs Trouble accomplishes. America as a Gentile nation will suffer what all Gentie nations suffer, complete brokenness of their power and their population will be decimated by 3/4.
So any US rulership from any perspective cannot alter God’s plans for purged earth and a restored nation of Israel on a restorqed land. Bottom line any condemnation toward any Gentile nation is without consequence. God sees the entire world governmental structure through the eyes of Israel. Israel is His creation and only He controls their destiny. And that despite ALL we have seen and do see every modern news cycle.
"Israel is the only nation with a God."
Except Israel is not occupying that land. Not until God gathers them. Read Matthew 24. Lisa was absolutely right in saying Balfour and Rothschild are not God's agents. The people occupying that land are not God's people. It is premature to call Israel, a 'nation with God'. Have you not seen Tel Aviv William? It is the capitol of sodomy in the world.
Ok. Let’s repeat. First of all Matt Ch 23 v38 begins the Olivet Discourse. A complete discussion of the consequences of Israel rejecting the King. Judgment first of Israel, then the Church and finally the Gentiles, follows thru Ch 24-25. Isreal rejected the King and His proffered Kingdom of the Heavens. (Which is the rule over the earth from the heavens). Israel was set aside for 2,000 years. Ch 23 v34-36 set the curse upon Israel, v35. These 2k years God the HS has two purposes: 1. Call out from among the Gentiles a people for His name. 2. Identify and procure a Bride for His firstborn & only begotten Son, Christ. Today Israel is indeed in the Land prematurely. God,despite that ungodly effort to occupy the Land by force in 1948 has a people, regardless how defiled (Sodomy, of course!) and broken and compromised, to make a covenant with the Beast. The AntiChrist needs a Jewish presence there to ratify a covenant. The next event on the Divine Calendar is the Judgment Seat of Christ to bring all the Church into Judgment. Works are judged. Only the qualified will become the Bride and reign with Christ.
Apart from that what is going on today in that scruffy little “nation” on the Mediterranean is of no consequence. God’s plans and purpose will not be aborted. He will have His Chosen, His Firstborn Son back and His Harlot wife cleansed and ruling with Him. BUT all that is preceded by the absolute necessity of bringing Israel, no matter how you describe them, to the place of repentance. That’s what the Time Of Jacob’s Trouble accomplishes. A time of such horror and bloodletting that the world has never seen. Nor ever will. Today’s slaughters are magnified 100x during that time yet ahead. We are at the end of the 6th day. God will regather His Chosen,
chosen to rule walk in the rights of primogeniture: to rule and bless the Gentile nations as kings and priests.
So VJ let’s not get all flustered by what we see on this earth today. It all passes. Israel’s blasphemies and corruption are not surprising in the least. He is dead man walking. He is the slayer.
Meantime we do have a war going on here in the west. Ishmael is on the march. Globally. Civilizational Jihad is here now. The fight is coming to us. The west is caving as we speak. It’s no longer over there, across the oceans. Prepare.
A well capsulized overview. But let’s not tell me what to get flustered over. What I write is as I am directed by my Boss.
PS Ishmael is not the problem. Jesus identified the problem in John 8.
Ok. John ch 8. 59 verses. Want to narrow your point down a bit ?
In John 8 Jesus was castigating the satanic followers in Israel. They have been the perpetrators of wars, genocides, intrigues, and every satanic work, throughout the ages. A small group, as in Jesus' day, nevertheless empowered by satan. As John Stormer put it, 'Only a few people are true Communists, the rest are acquiesors.'
PS These luciferian 'zionists' have bent over backwards to paint the Arabs as the problem. Moses knew these people too, for which reason the commandment says' Thou shalt not bear false witness',.. and Mossad's motto, as if to mock Moses says 'By deceit thou shalt make war'.
Woah VJ, You are conflating ALOT of historical and fanciful threads here to make an erroneous conclusion. The Pharisees, Israel’s leaders and those who sat in Moses seat should have known who He was. His claim to be God and performing the signs He was, pushed them into blasphemy. Christ removed His offer of the Kingdom Of the Heavens and ultimately gave it to the Church. Signs always needed and wanted by Isreal were performed to show Israel’s leaders the Nations true condition. They saw and hated him. So all that resistance to the offer of the Kingdom of the Heavens was made by redeemed men refusing to convert to the True Shepard and Lamb of God. They personified the stiffnecked rebellion He accused them of. They were not going to enter the Kindom themselves and were preventing all others from doing so. There are lots of liars on the earth but God is only interested in the restoration of man during a 7,000 year period here on earth. What Israel or those saying they are Jews but are not, and any other Jews anywhere in the planet are ALL guilty. They killed the prophets sent to them from the begining of the nations entry into the Promised Land and since. ALL are guilty. ALL will be punished. There is ANOTHER Holocaust coming for every Jew alive today. The remaining Jews will in that time of extreme suffering will again “call upon the God of their fathers”. God will answer and send the greater than Moses to deliver. It’s all in the types from the OT. When Christ appears to His restored people they will see Him Whom they had pierced and rejoice. Meantime all hell breaking loose is just ahead.
Ok being flustered is your choice. But it remains that Ishmael and Issac are two half-brothers who are today fighting for the right to rule the world. The rights of inheritance. Clearly the son of the slave woman does NOT inherit. Ishmael dies during the Tribulation. As typed in the time between Abraham’s barren wife and his fruitful wife Keturah. The Scriptures have a structure. Follow the God-provided structure and the scriptures interpret themselves. Modern day prophets are fraud.
It also ramains that the heart of man is deceitful and desperately wicked.
Read my former comment. Ishmael is not the problem.